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Second Chances: How Syreta Toson Rebuilt Her Life After Incarceration

Terry L. Fossum

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Syreta Toson shares her extraordinary journey from prison to purpose after serving 14 years for second-degree murder in a case stemming from an abusive relationship. Released in 2022, she's now creating an app to help formerly incarcerated people find housing and jobs while becoming a TEDx speaker.

• Growing up in poverty after parents' divorce led to exposure to drugs and alcohol at a young age
• Started working in adult entertainment at 19 to support her son
• Became trapped in a cycle of abuse with a pharmacist who used drugs to control her
• Shot her abuser in self-defense after multiple failed attempts to escape the relationship
• Used her 14+ years in prison to help others by becoming a GED tutor and leading a parenting program
• Reunited with her son who was 10 when she entered prison and 24 when she was released
• Now works with the Harvest Solutions app helping justice-impacted people find housing, jobs, and food security
• Speaks about "the power of the pivot" and resilience, encouraging people to change their narratives
• Advocates for prison reform and greater understanding of circumstances that lead to incarceration

If you're ready to get over your fears, self-doubts and past failures and break through your comfort zone to reach the pinnacle of success in every area of your life, head over to terrielfossum.com to pick up your free gifts and so much more.


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Speaker 1:

If you've been stuck in fear, self-doubt, your past failures and you're ready to break through your comfort zones to finally reach the pinnacle of success in every area of your life, then this podcast is for you. Here's your host Terry L Fossum. Terry L Fossum.

Speaker 2:

Hey, terry L Fossum here and welcome back once again to the Comeback Chronicles podcast. Got an amazing story for you today. This one is going to completely blow you away Not only what she went through, but what she's doing with it. My guest today is Sarita Tosin. Get this. In 2008, sarita found herself in prison for a second-degree murder after a series of bad decisions that included drug addiction and staying in an abusive relationship. Well, that abuse led her to shooting her abuser and more than 14 years in jail. But that's not the end of her story. Released in September of 2022, her subsequent story is a story of transformation that she wants to share and is sharing with others who are facing adversity. Get this. After being out for less than three years, she's in her final semester in college. She's built the Harvest Solution app that helps people navigate housing, food, insecurity and employment. After being justice involved, she's a TEDx speaker and she's sharing her message, her advice and her guidance from the stage. Sarita, thank you so much for joining us today.

Speaker 3:

Terry, thank you so much for having me. I am just beyond excited to be on a show called the Comeback Chronicles and to be on your show because you've just been so very welcoming and I'm grateful. Thanks, Terry.

Speaker 2:

Well, you're making such a difference in the world, terry. Well, you're making such a difference in the world. I'm truly passionate about and we were talking about this about what you're doing, because all too often people are incarcerated for whatever reason and then they're re-incarcerated. And they're re-incarcerated why? Because they haven't changed the mindset, they haven't gotten the guidance of what to do, how to change where they came from. So to have a story like yours and I know you're comfortable with us digging pretty deep into the story and seeing where you're going now, it's going to make a difference in the world. So I'm truly excited to have you here. Let's talk. Give the backstory, if you would be so kind.

Speaker 3:

Sure, sure. So I'm going to go way, way back when I was pretty young around 11, 12 years old my family we had always kind of grew up in a suburban neighborhood. I don't remember us ever financially needing anything and then my parents went through a divorce and my mother, who, now that I'm old enough and more mature, was, at like, absolutely thrown into poverty and we didn't have any money, and it was just so different. The neighborhood that we moved into and I will just go ahead and say that, like poverty, is an adverse childhood effect and it kind of led me around people that I had never been around, and drugs and alcohol things I would have never thought about experimenting with had become, you know, cool. That was something, you know, something fun. So then let's fast forward a bit.

Speaker 3:

At 18, I had my child. I'm struggling. I am at a, you know, a crossroads. I'm really trying to be a good parent, but I cannot find a way to sustain, to get out of poverty.

Speaker 3:

So I found adult entertainment and I started working in what we would call a strip club and I realized that, you know, there were people at the strip, there were other girls, and I just thought to myself, you know, I really wish one of these people you know that own this club would just fall in love with me. Well, you better be careful what you wish for. Yeah, because the next thing I know now, I started this when I was 19. And so I was basically escorting for a ring of gentlemen that most of them were married and I didn't see any problem with it. That was a problem right there. Yeah, that was a problem right there.

Speaker 3:

And you know I was thinking well, you know, I'm making good money, I'm able to take care of my son. Things are not. Things aren't that bad. Well then, around the time I was 22, 23 years old. Well, actually I was 22. I met the person that ended up showing me that this lifestyle I thought was fun, that I thought was cool, was actually terrible, and I had bitten off way more than I could chew. Because when we're in our teenager years I don't know if you were anything like me we know everything.

Speaker 1:

We know it all.

Speaker 3:

So I had found this industry and I was cool and I was involved in it until I met this person who, I will say, was a legal pharmacist and was using these drugs to keep me in a state in which any and everything was happening to me. I was in bad shape. I was in bad shape. So now I'm 22 in this last until I'm 28. So many things have happened to you know, I'm just a beat down individual and I'm just waiting until my number is up.

Speaker 2:

Well, this evening, I got to pause. I got to pause you there because there's so much in that right there. First of all, you've got a pharmacist, a legal pharmacist, so he's a community known person, right yes? And he is giving you drugs to keep you drugged, so you'll continue to do whatever.

Speaker 1:

Do these things. Yes, yes.

Speaker 2:

Wow, and now? So, now that you've reached that point, you have no control over yourself at that point anymore. The drugs are controlling you.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, and I'm just missing blocks of time. So I finally, at this point, had made enough, you know, squirreled enough back. I'd got what they would call a straight job, working at a hotel as a concierge. And you know, I was still battling those demons. But I was still, you know, able to realize I needed to get out as fast as I possibly could. So I'd gotten an apartment. I didn't even make it to pay the rent. One time I got this apartment, the man picked me up, hold a gun on me instantly.

Speaker 2:

Now, who did the pharmacist?

Speaker 3:

Yes, this is the person who I ended up going to prison for.

Speaker 2:

So he's not letting you out of this, yeah.

Speaker 3:

I said this before the show, Terry, in the audience. I don't give this person a name out of respect for his family. However, you know, what's public record is public record. So the man was a pharmacist, kept me clearly in a bad state and I was trying to leave. Oh, these lights go out in this room sometimes. I was trying to leave, so I had this apartment which you know in hindsight, was him knowing that it was over you?

Speaker 3:

know they had lost their good thing and I was, you know, definitely afraid for my life. There was a point where I said I'm just going to put my clothes on and run for it. So I start putting on my clothes and as I looked down and finished pulling out my jeans, I see a gun under the bed. I picked it up and fired it. I didn't even think. As my hand was pulling it up, I thought to myself dear God, forgive me Wow, wow, wow and as a result, he passed away and I went to jail.

Speaker 2:

Now you've said, though, that he has pulled guns on you. Um, oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, and abusive pain, fear, intimidation. He had even intimidated my family. You know, as time went on, they didn't want anything to do with me because it was just such a dangerous situation, community, yeah, and went to work every day and I told you as well, I really feel like I got so much time because I did not look. His family did not look like mine, right, he did not look like me and they had money and mine didn't. Yeah, along with all of his friends. They were all wealthy individuals.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and which is also a point just to throw out there folks, keep your eyes open. Keep your eyes open. This stuff is happening more than you think. It is right under our noses. Keep your eyes open. That's so important. So you're going through and, before we move on, still what was going through your mind during all of this, prior to the shooting?

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh. That night I thought for sure that I was going to die. I thought that I was going to die and I said lots of prayers. My son was 10 years old when this happened and I thought I would never see him again. So through my mind, I just know this is it for me.

Speaker 3:

And there was just a moment where I'd come back from the restroom. The restroom was straight off the bedroom. There was no way out and I had no clothes on, but I had picked up my cell phone. This is how good of a case. I had Picked up my cell phone and took it in the bathroom. I didn't want to make a phone call, but I sent a text message to my friend and I said if anything happens to me, so and so did it. Well, that's in my paperwork as well. So when the book comes out, be prepared for all sorts of blockbusters, yeah. However, it was just a bad situation that had went on for so many years that I felt like and they say it takes on average seven times for a woman to leave that every time I left. When I came back, things were so much worse. It made it harder to leave again.

Speaker 2:

Wow, wow, how. How did he make it harder to leave again for those who've never been in that situation?

Speaker 3:

Because, when you, when you come back, they know that you've tried to leave.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 3:

So now they treat you even worse, like you've tried to stop what's going on with you. You tried to. And human trafficking they didn't even really have. They had a name for it, but back when this was happening 25 years ago well, was it 25? Yeah, I'm getting older when this was happening all those years maybe more than that they weren't calling it human trafficking. You know, and I think about it a lot of times. I was a throwaway person, you know, and that's how I ended up where I did.

Speaker 2:

I think that's a huge point to make, because I believe that they saw you as a throwaway person and society might've, even at that point, right, absolutely Okay. So you, you, it comes to that night, you doing all right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, um, you know, it's still so hard and it doesn't matter how many years go by because it was just uh, so many things led up to it, so much pain, so much abuse. And then in that moment you never get a chance to like I'm still just beginning my own grief process because I never really get to grieve over my former life, over any of that, because you instantly go to jail and you have to stand up and defend yourself in a different way. So I remember when I was, you know, in jail and I would try and keep a positive attitude and the women would be like Sarita, you're in jail for a serious, how are you keeping it together? And I said, well, I had to fight for my life to be here, so I can't give up now.

Speaker 2:

Wow, wow, wow. That's amazing.

Speaker 3:

I just want to touch on this prayer too. So I would say this prayer all the time, you know, because I always knew about God. I just wasn't doing the right thing. So when this man came to me, I said, dear God, get me away from this man, get me off drugs, help me to be a good mom to my son again. Well, god did all three of those things. He just didn't do them how I suspected or how I expected.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Amen to all of that. And yet his will. You know his will. But that is amazing that even while you're incarcerated, you're keeping and after everything that happened, you're keeping this attitude about you.

Speaker 3:

I had to.

Speaker 2:

How. How did you do it? How?

Speaker 3:

Well, when I got there and I call it almost like a missionary trip I met women from places that I would have never existed or never would have thought. Imagine I was in with a mother who her excuse me, her daughter was not doing well when she was. You know what she would tell us about it. Next thing, you know, the daughter was in prison with us. There were so many cycles of just familial abuse generational curses, I don't know what you want to call it. Then we're in missouri and there is a section of missouri that is extremely impoverished and I would have never thought I had a roommate who said serena, I had to wash up in the river because our family could never keep the lights on. We didn't have running electricity and water, so it was just like wow, thought I had it bad.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I thought I had it bad when we moved from the suburbs to the ghetto and I had to make new friends that were bad, you know, and I ended up in this lifestyle, when there are people who, from kindergarten, didn't have the clothes to wear, didn't? You know? Parents can't read and write. So I really feel like when I was there, not only did I get to encourage women, but I got to take their stories out with me so that way I can encourage more people out here to realize stop that narrative. Stop that narrative that people who are in jail are terrible, evil people, because it's not the case and some of them never had a chance to go any other path besides one that led right to a correctional facility.

Speaker 2:

Now it's easy for those of us on the outside right to go sure, they did. It's all a decision. You know they made the decision. Talk about that.

Speaker 3:

Sure they did. It's all a decision. They made the decision. Talk about that. Okay, well, let me tell you, sometimes decisions are out of your hands and sometimes you could have made 15 better decisions before you got to the decision. That was the life-changing decision. So if I would have stayed gone the 15 times I'd left that man before, I wouldn't have been in that situation, but that night I didn't have any choices. I wouldn't have been in that situation, but that night I didn't have any choices. But I had choices leading up to there and I used to tell like I went all over the United States running from this man, but I would always come back.

Speaker 2:

Why? Why would you come back? What do you think?

Speaker 3:

Well, I would be in fear.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

I would be in fear a lot of times then. Sometimes I was. I had, uh, like a sick version of stockholm syndrome and I would feel like we were in love. So I would be afraid I would feel like we're in love or he would lure me back with money and drugs because I I couldn't make it other places long without the. You know, I'd become accustomed to terrible life. It wasn't like I became accustomed to beautiful things. I became accustomed to drugs and alcohol and having the money to support these habits. And he knew or he would fly wherever I wasn't coming to get me.

Speaker 2:

Wow, wow, wow. That's amazing. That's amazing. So it happened. The gun came up, you pulled the trigger, trigger. What were your thoughts right then and there, at that moment?

Speaker 3:

I thought I'm going to jail, that's what I thought I'm going to jail, but I just really feel like I had an exhale moment too, which was I'm alive wow, yeah, I'm alive I might be going to jail but I'm alive.

Speaker 3:

and I just knew when they saw that he had a gun, the gun was right there. When they saw the condition I was in, I just knew for sure I wasn't going to be in jail for a long time. I did, but I had no idea how the criminal justice system worked, you know, or the criminal injustice system, depending on how much money you have.

Speaker 2:

Talk more about that. Let's take the time to talk more about that. Sure, sure yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, let me tell you, I, from the beginning, had a public defender who I thought did very well by me. And then I had another attorney who took my case pro bono but was through the public defender's office. Now this is a private attorney that doesn't make enough money in his practice, so he cherry picks out of the public defender's office for cases but he doesn't really have time for the caseload either. So he was really never invested in me doing anything other than taking a plea deal, which is the least amount of work, and sending me right off to prison. And you know, I would ask questions. But who knows how to defend, who knows what to ask, who knows how to defend themselves when something like this happens and who thinks in their mind I really can't trust this guy. That's my attorney.

Speaker 3:

I didn't think that, I thought that he was a bit slow, but you know, I've never been on trial before for my life, so I didn't know how to approach that. So it was just. It was very eye-opening and I'm glad to be on this side and not, you know, mired, because you know, if it would have been 20, 30 years ago, I would have gotten a life sentence. They would have, you know, evidence might have disappeared, but who knows? I got the sentence that I did and I'm so glad that I was able to come back on this side and have made something of a bad choice to follow that bad choice with Every day.

Speaker 3:

many, many good choices, many, many good choices.

Speaker 2:

And let's start talking. Thank you so much for sharing your story.

Speaker 3:

It's amazing, I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 2:

Well, and I know, of course, it's horrible going through it, but you're going to be able to use that story to inspire and help so many people, which is fantastic. Well, it's already started, but this is not the least of which being on this podcast. So now, during prison, what did you do? You know you mentioned people are asking how are you keeping this attitude? What do you do while you're in prison to help move forward?

Speaker 3:

Okay, well, let me tell you, there were seasons oh my gosh, there were seasons where I was just so sad and depressed I couldn't do anything with myself. But luckily those subsided and I just really started trying to better myself any way that I could. Since I had college credits prior to prison, I couldn't participate in almost any of their programs.

Speaker 1:

So I became.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so I became a GED tutor. Well, they go in a, not like a, like a system, not a cast system. But if you've already got credits, they'd rather work on the people who need a GED.

Speaker 2:

And then they, you know. So that's how it goes. They only have so much money, they only have so much time, exactly, and I had too much time in front of me.

Speaker 3:

So I became a GED tutor and would teach women how to get their high set or their GED, so that way I could learn right alongside of them. So that was always a great thing, and then I was able to, closer to going home, get a job tutoring for a customer service.

Speaker 2:

I've got to break you in. I'm sorry to do that. Sure, something just hit me. You had college credits. Yeah, yeah, before all this happened, you had college credits.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, I was going to college. I was really trying to change my life credits. Oh yeah, I was going to college. I was really trying to change my life. Listen, from that 19 to 22 period when I met him or where things were on the ups, I, like I said, helped me to be a good mother again. I was a good mother help get me off drugs.

Speaker 3:

I wasn't on drugs like that get me away from this man so when people you know when they want to be able to control you, they know what to do. Wow, wow.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry that's. That's a little mind blowing.

Speaker 3:

And when I met this gentleman, he would even give me rides to college because my car had broke down and they let it stay. Broke down. Those are, those are ploys like oh, something's wrong with your vehicle, as you know, and, as a matter of fact, they might have made it break down. Okay, because that's easier to keep someone under your thumb.

Speaker 2:

Wow, okay, glad we went back to that. So now you're back there and you're helping women get their GED, et cetera. Let's go from there and.

Speaker 3:

I also spearheaded a program about parenting in prison. There was a program called Parents and their Children's Patch and my son. I was able to raise him from the program and then I was voted president of the program two years after I had already graduated, because it was so important for me to encourage other moms like me to never give up hope that you could still be an active part me to never give up hope that you could still be an active part. Once more, that cyclical, that prayer coming true, I was able to parent from prison.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, amazing, okay. So that's while you're in prison. That's what you're doing Now. That's building you up as well. It's building up your confidence, your self-esteem, everything else, which is a great point right there For everybody that needs to pull themselves out of whatever it is. Take action, help other people. There's nothing that'll build yourself up more than building other people up.

Speaker 3:

Helping other people, yes, yes, oh sorry, I've realized who I was because I didn't go into that lifestyle with, you know, thinking that's where I was going to end up. Not at all, I thought I was going to get some money you know, be able to take care of my son. I was going to college I was trying to do all the things that I thought, but I wasn't going the right way about doing it.

Speaker 2:

Wow, wow. Well, in a way and I don't like making excuses for anybody, but in a way, you're doing it, the only way you could see how it seems at that point. Yeah, what you had been exposed to, amazing. Okay, so you'd already decided you're turning your life around. Well, you'd been trying to do so. Now you're in there, you're making it happen and you just got out. Is there any more stories you want to tell from being in there before we move to get?

Speaker 3:

out. Oh my gosh, just that I left some individuals behind that don't deserve to be there. Please, if you have any type of contact, if it's six degrees of separation with somebody who is incarcerated, please don't forget about them. Whether it's six degrees of separation with somebody who is incarcerated, please don't forget about them. Whether it's your cousin, your brother, your sister, your mother, we are still people too, and also people are finally talking about it. There are a lot of innocent individuals. Brenda Williams is one of them. So is Danita Pilton here in Missouri. So always, if you see a way that you can call a legislator and just say something like you know, if you know, just be active and know what's going on around you.

Speaker 2:

Now, what do you mean by you left some, some people there in prison. Oh yeah, Don't deserve to be in prison Now, wait a minute.

Speaker 3:

No, no no, my friend Brenda Williams is an innocent woman. Sandra Hemme, who was my roommate twice, did 40 years. She was recently released as an innocent woman. There are several innocent people who are here in the state of Missouri Danita Pendleton is one of them, and Sandy Hemme, who got out, brenda Williams and another woman just got out. Her name is Patty Pruitt. She did over 40 years Now. Sandra Hemme, patty Pruitt, they've all been on all your major shows Dr Phil, all of that and they still remained in prison until this last year and a half. So just be active. If you see something and it's talking about criminal justice reform, just look a little bit farther into it. Remember that there's people in there that don't deserve to be there. And then the ones that have committed a crime. Remember this the same person I was 17 years ago, are you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, well said, well said, okay. So less than three years ago you got out. Less than three years ago. Right and what's your journey? First of all, let's start with. You're about to walk out the door, right okay, yeah what's that feeling when, oh my gosh.

Speaker 3:

Well, let me tell you, I a lot of people were like, oh my gosh, you won't be able to sleep. I slept like a baby. I'll actually watch the chosen an episode of the chosen on my roommate's tablet because we could see that. And then I went to sleep. I woke up that morning and everybody was out, like the whole housing unit was so, because I was the neighborhood. I was Ned Flanders of the penitentiary Oakley Doakley neighbor.

Speaker 3:

I knew everybody's name, you know, even though, like there's like 800 people. If I knew your name, I was going to say hi, you know, and I just was there and I remember telling somebody that morning I said, hey, listen, I'm taking my light with me. So you guys got to do something. You're going to have to start standing up for yourselves, because I would always rally the troops if something was going wrong. Uh, you know, and I would, uh, you know, help to write paperwork, to help us, you know, have a voice. So, but it was so amazing and my son, when I, as I said, when I left, he was 10, he came to get me at 24. Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:

Wow, what was that like?

Speaker 3:

That was so wonderful it was. It was just like 14 and a half years wrapped up in one hug and love. And then we spent the whole day together and uh, actually I think he's from. He went to Boston. He got a full ride. Scholarship to Northeastern does social work, wonderful kid. So he had flown back just to see me get out and spent five days with me.

Speaker 2:

Right on, right on. That's cool. So now, what are you up to in the time that we have remaining here? What are you up to?

Speaker 3:

Well, I found this app. I didn't found the app, but I found the app, the Harvest Solutions app. They got a hold of me and what they do is they provide tutorials that people can watch either on their phones out here or you can watch it on the tablet in the prison, and it teaches people about how to get a house after you've been justice impacted, and it also has housing listings. It also has employment opportunities and also ways to address food insecurity, so it's a way to give back that. Another man who was justice impacted, douglas Fowler, started the app and I so gratefully get to be a part of it.

Speaker 2:

Well, and I love that, and for everybody listening on listen, when these folks get out of prison, we want them to be successful, but it's crazy hard because we don't want them to go back in. We don't want them to do bad things, to go back in. But finding housing, finding food, finding jobs, I assume it's pretty hard.

Speaker 3:

If you're homeless, how are you going to shower and feel good about it? How are you going to make it to a job every day?

Speaker 2:

So what are you going to do if you don't? You're going to recommit, right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah Well, that's a strong possibility. Or you end up stuck in a cycle of homelessness, drug abuse and you're still not a productive member of society. So if you give somebody a hand up, then you're giving an opportunity for workforce development, financial literacy, You're boosting the economy. Every time they say second chance. But give this person the first chance, Treat them as though you would anyone else.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because these are humans. These are human beings.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely, and I'm one of them.

Speaker 2:

Amen, amen, yeah, and circumstances, whatever they may be, whatever they may be, have shaped them into what happened, but not into what they can become, and we can all be part of that. We can all be part of the solution as well. What else would you and I know you've done a TED Talk, which I think is fantastic as well- yes, are you opening doors?

Speaker 3:

Are you closing them?

Speaker 2:

I love that and you're doing speaking as well.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. Getting out rocking a few stages. What are your?

Speaker 2:

speaking topics. If people wanted to hire you, what are some of your speaking topics that you normally do?

Speaker 3:

Okay, well, I talk about the power of the pivot being able to pivot out of prison, being able to pivot into prison. You know, that's a whole different lifestyle. It's a whole different set of circumstances. So the power of the pivot is a good one. And then I also talk about my story and just resilience and being able to bounce back and not let that narrative be who I am. So if I speak about anything, it's resilience and it's definitely just any way in which I can impart knowledge of changing that narrative. Change that narrative, Get that out of here. Well, I think that out of here, the power of the pivot.

Speaker 2:

You know you related it, of course, to prison, but that power of the pivot that's relatable for all of us at almost any given time. The power of the pivot Fantastic. What else would you like to share with everybody, Sarita, before we have to tune off?

Speaker 3:

Oh my gosh, terry, thank you so much for giving me this opportunity. If you see somebody that is down and out, don't judge them, even if it's something you see on television. You know what I'm saying. Just think about taking a mile, they say walking in someone else's shoes. Think about it this way If that was your daughter, or if that was your, or if that was your son, or if that was your mother, or if that was your father and circumstances had led them into a position such as the one that I was in, or someone else like me, how would you feel? And then take that feeling and give that impetus for you to do better?

Speaker 2:

That's amazing. I appreciate that, and for everybody else that is going through their own challenges, maybe significant challenges, like Sarita said, you're making steps, you're making decisions. You're making choices every step of the way, so be careful. Every single decision you're making think where it is leading you toward, and that's absolutely critical. So keep that in mind. Keep in mind the power of the pivot, because you have the power to pivot. If there's ever been an example in the world, it's Sarita, and you have that power too. So keep all of those things in mind and you can have your own Comeback Chronicle.

Speaker 1:

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